Should we go back to the past to save money?

by , 1 year agoOpen Question

My flat was built in the 50-60's and had a real coal fire/.
In those days the water piping for the kitchen/bathroom went to a back boiler (a small steel box) behind the fireplace which was heated by the fire itself constantly. I recently restored my fireplace and got rid of the electric heater that had been blocked up and put in its place.

Unfortunately the piping had been removed long ago but it was a remarkably effective system.

I use a special compressor device to squeeze scrap paper mixed with water into large paper burning blocks - they burn for over an hour just like a log which I also believe they used to do in the 70's!

With the energy prices going up up up I think new housebuilders would be wise to incorporate some of the old ideas with the new!

It isnt my imagination either but the room is actually warmer than having an electric heater - and when the forthcoming Zombie Apocalypse wipes out most of mankind and there is no electricity i shall be comfortably cooking marshmallows on my log burning real fire!
>;o)

Anyone have any other ideas from the past that might actually be a better idea (money saving of course) than that which we have now?

Answers (15)

Ah your flat sounds lovely and cosy.
It's not so long ago that we were having tin baths in front of the fire and I don't really care to go back to those days especially when I was never the first in.

I've heard of those paper blocks you mentioned and they sound good value if you can get them to burn for an hour.

You sound a very innovative person Omendata well done, I hope you ultimately make lots of savings as well as enjoy your lovely surroundings.

by LILLIE, 1 year ago

I have to be, not a case of wanting to be so much but i must admit i do prefer the older style of life - not only does it keep you fit it keeps your mind active.

Most modern couples I know go to work, shop in asda, eat sleep and then perform the whole thing again..."There must be more to life than just this!"

I would love to give up IT and electronics and move to a farm abroad and have everything at hand (fresh eggs, my own chickens, citrus tree orchard, potato fields etc) and never see another Asda ever again.

I believe having experienced it that good food is produced only in agrarian cultures - modern food just doesnt taste of anything and its unhealthy too - Did you see the documentary on mass production of food using hydroponics? And do you know the ingredients in some hydroponic foods are extremely hazardous to health if they get into the food chain!

A lot of these feeds are used however by growers of the hemp variety of herb!

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Personally, I'll stick to paying more for the privilege of plentiful supplies and little effort.

Yep, I didn't grow up in those times and I'm thankful for it!

by cpj1987, 1 year ago

And thats why we have the society we have - mostly overweight and lazy - plentiful supplies and no effort!

by Omendata, 1 year ago

What can I say? I want and love my modern conveniences.

I've no time for making my own fuel blocks, having to ensure I have a constant supply of resources to stay warm, and having to just hope that there's enough hot water for my shower each day. No, thanks!

by cpj1987, 1 year ago

Thats fine no problem but i am trying to point out that a little effort in trying to reduce costs is worth some effort if you are on a low income.

I find we are becoming a consumer society and we are becoming reliant on everything provided by someone else. If there ever is a global disaster the only people who will survive will be the ones who know how to live without Tesco.

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Omendata - I'm currently reading a book that I received for Christmas called 'Thrifty Tips from the War Years'. I'll get back to you when I've filtered some of the best ideas from the past! (Someone I know realises that I'm rather frugal in my ways!!)

by Sidesalad, 1 year ago

Sidesalad, maybe you could do us a nice list of the best ones as a 'tip'...??

by fruitcake, 1 year ago

Yes please do sidebrusselsprout that should be interesting reading!

My goodness I am impressed sideaubergine someone that reads - wow!

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Omendata I look forward to seeing how many vegetables you can think of:)

by Sidesalad, 1 year ago

So, Omendata, do you make your own marshmallows too...?! ;-)

by fruitcake, 1 year ago

No fraid not Tesco!!!
lol
But I do have some lovely carrots , betroot and potatoes in the back yard which i will roast in case my supply of emergency mashallows runs out!

Just hope a veggie Post-Apocalypse-Zombie doesnt have a bite at ma carrot or nick my tatties!

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Post-Apocalypse-Zombies aren't the only ones who like a nice bite... ;-)

by fruitcake, 1 year ago

Eeeeek!!!!

I can hear wings overhead...Mummmmmmyyyyyyy...

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Well Mr OD, you do stimulate reaction from the ladies, don't you?

But what you suggest should indeed be a 'new age' way of thinking. Most of us are brought up to accept modern conveniences and if it's cold, you simply turn up the thermostat or switch on a fan heater or gas log fire. And that is all fine until you get the damn bill!

So fully in agreement, we should take a step back in time ( I think the antique shops call it 'retro' ). I was brought up in London in the 50s with coal fires being the norm. NO central heating, perhaps the odd gas fire. The they introduced a smokeless zone in the early 60s and we went over to electric fires with those whirligigs over red bulbs which gave the effect of flames lapping up your personage.

I now live and work in Sussex and when I visit rural or semi-rural properties, they almost always have a log burner. The trouble is that as a result, logs are fully available but usually at a premium. So your idea of paper bricks is wonderful although it does restrict paper recycling in a way.

Perhaps we should bring back 'coppers' for washing clothes in and mangles ... and washboards! But somehow the romantic picture that conjures up soon fades when my little white Zanussi jobbie fits the bill so much better!

And then there are candles ... romantic at every level ... mystical ... and no power source! And I always try and use recycled toilet paper .. pity about the colour though!

by Snoopy48, 1 year ago

Never mind the colour a bit of a pain on the bottom as well!!!
>;o()

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Not if, like me, you iron it first!

by Snoopy48, 1 year ago

Hi Omendata

Boy have you taken me back to my childhood! When I was little we lived in a flat on the 3rd floor and we had a coal fire, it was used to heat our whole flat and our hot water. We had a coal man who used to carry it all up the stairs and a coal shed in our hallway by the front door. I was a child of the 80's so I imagine that we were probably one of the last ones to have an open fire, but we loved it (apart from the dust) - my mum would cook on it when we had no power and it was a great source of light, we would wash in front of it and it was a lot cheaper than the modern equivalent.

I have central heating and it's fine until it goes wrong, than you've got nothing - no heat or hot water (except from our shower which is on a separate system, thank goodness).

We did grow our own produce last summer and we will again this summer (hope my strawberries survive the snow and frost) and it is better tasting than what you buy. In an ideal society we would have a mix of both traditional ways of growing our produce and being semi self sufficient and a mix of modern technologies to make life easier, but unfortunately we are a society that likes things to be easy and we want everything now.

by Vettriano, 1 year ago

Yes OM - let's go back to the past for this - who is old enough to remember domestic science lessons in schools (later to become home economics)? Such a useful, money-saving and ecologically sound subject and although taught in a few schools today does not cover the same subject areas at all. I was taught how to plan family meals, cook fresh and seasonal vegetables, economical cuts of meat and fish and never to waste anything. I know how to darn and how to patch and how to clean windows with newspaper and vinegar solution. I learnt how to design and plan a kitchen, how to budget and how to make a Christmas table centre. DS was considered a Cinderella subject and was dropped as a core subject when the National Curriculum came in, such a pity.

by Sidesalad, 1 year ago

I suspect many mymoney members would be amazed by my life and lifestyle. Here in remote North Wales I live in a granite built cottage rather distant from anywhere. There is no mains gas, no mains sewers, often there's no mains electric either. Since getting up this morning my partner and I have been chopping logs. Our log shed now contains a very healthy supply which is good because that is our central heating (wood burner) for the next few weeks. These logs were collected throughout the year, for free I should add, and that's how it is every year. We do rather live in the past I guess, but I don't think it's a bad thing (somewhat exhausting perhaps and I've got a very achey back) but we don't get huge bills over winter and we don't have the temptation of the thermostat - if it gets chilly we chuck another log on the fire and put another jumper on.

by wendiew, 1 year ago

Wow, sounds like a lovely place you have, good old jumper, I have many debates with my wife over placing on a jumper rather than turning up the heating a few degrees but I never win. I just turn it down here and then when she's not looking.

by darry, 1 year ago

I've lived that lifestyle, wendiew, in a little stone cottage on a remote Scottish island. Our cottage had no heating, only an open fire. No trees on the island, so we had to trek miles to the peat bogs and dig our peat out...backbreaking! We did have to pay for the 'rights' to dig the peat, although it wasn't much. We ate fish, bought straight from the fishermen when the boats came in. We had to get clever with food, because fresh food was only brought over in a boat from the mainland, and it generally looked seriously seasick! I never saw a banana for two years! It was great fun, but after a couple of years of it, I have to admit I was glad to get back to civilisation!

by fruitcake, 1 year ago

Sounds like paradise there Wendiew.
Any room for a lodger?
lol

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Thanks for the nice comments. It is lovely here, as long as you don't mind not having convenience on the doorstep. We're surrounded by countryside, seaside on 3 sides just 5 minutes away, going to town or even nearest shop means a drive, so rising fuel costs are a real problem (135.9 now). It's an easy life in summer when heating etc isn't a problem, but it's a harder life in wintertime. I have a freezer stocked full with fish caught in summer by my other half, as well as pounds and pounds of fruit and berries from the garden - we won't starve this winter, and now the logs are chopped and stacked we won't freeze either. I couldn't live in 'civilisation', too frantic, too full up and too busy for me.

by wendiew, 1 year ago

Am no great lover of 'civilisation' either, wendiew, I now live in a semi rural part of Somerset, best of both worlds in many ways. Miss the fish though! :-)

by fruitcake, 1 year ago

I used to love going camping with the cubs and cooking eggy bread on the camp fire, cant beat it, best days of my life when I refect back on it, we did use stoves at night to cook our food but during the day was on the open fire with wood collected through the day. I admire wendiew with her log fire now.

The trouble is with some of the old ideas is that they take time and with modern day living, certainly mine anyway there is no time to do things the old way, well not until I finish doing my house up, but having said that I do have an allotment so I'm kind of back to the roots there as I'm self sufficent on a 1/3 of my overall produce throughout the year.

by darry, 1 year ago

Go back to the past to save money?

No.

Go back to the past to make money?

Oh yes.

If we're gonna time travel, I'm going to collect winning lottery numbers, not alternative water heating mechanisms :)

by G-Man, 1 year ago

Much better idea - I'm with you!

by cpj1987, 1 year ago

You wont be laughing when the impending Zombie Apocalypse happens in late 2012 though!!!

But you are welcome to come round to mine for some marshmallows - toasted of course as long as you press a few paper logs for your supper.
>;o)

by Omendata, 1 year ago

I'll slay a few zombies and we can use their remains for fuel. As they'll still be moving, it'll be like having a self-stoking fire :)

by G-Man, 1 year ago

Indeed sir why didnt i think of that - another excellent money saving idea!

by Omendata, 1 year ago

Omendata, we too have an open fire and would not be without it - my husband always says that if we weren't in rented accomodation we would definitely have a back boiler put in. One great money saving thing that is coming back from the past is growing ones own veggies. My Uncle always has and last year he said wasn't a great year for carrots and it was the first time he ever remembered having to buy any!!! That's in about 50 yrs. His veggies are delicious and I now grow a handful of foods myself too. It is so rewarding - and cheap!!

by SJKenny, 9 months ago

Yeah Im growing a few - hot Jalapeno peppers and they grow surprising well (Really well if you grow indoors in a conservatory/greenhouse etc) and thats from the seeds you get from the fresh ones you buy in the shops (I recommend Asda's) so there you go another money saving tip from Omen-D. Plus they look rather nice on the windowsill all reds , oranges and yellow hanging peppers - watchout for the nasty greenfly though they really like em!

I am also growing Lemons , Olives and Calamondin oranges for Jam in preparation for my emmigration to my vineyard, lemon and hot pepper orchard in Slovakia.
>;o)

by Omendata, 9 months ago

We bought one of those things to make paper bricks but I did find it rather time consuming and of course you have to get them to dry which takes forever. With that we got quite a lot of them as my husband started to take over as I found it was slipping for me and not working as well after a while, but, I don't think they lasted an hour. We actually have quite a few people that off load their old fences etc to us and we seem to have quite a good supply with this so I suggest if you have a coal fire (or get a wood burner- in the summer when they're on sale is best) and let everyone know you will get rid of their old wood (work tops etc) saves them going to the tip. If you have somewhere to keep it of course but this saves a fortune

by jennd45, 6 months ago

We live in a marshmallow world now !! haha...all soft..!..no..your idea is a good one...we could also stick newspapers up our jumpers..that is a remarkable way to keep warm...would have to be... The Times...of course..better quality heat !! and yes..I think open fire gives an overall heat to the room..rather than just a few feet from electric fire...newspaper in shoes...??

by mikkimac, 5 months ago

And Thermal Knickers, Mikkimac!!!! ha ha...

by SJKenny, 4 months ago

I am glad that this question has reared its head after nearly a year as it seems so much more focal as the recession bites. However, with family units in decline and people living more and more insular lives, the chance to make such savings becomes less. Having said that, I firmly believe that if we slide deeper into recession ( and globally, that's on the cards ) then necessity ( being the mother of invention ) will firmly take over and we could see old fashioned values returning.

Well at least I can dream !

by Snoopy48, 4 months ago

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